I think that sesshomaru and rin can, in some really well written fanfiction, work together. It all depends on eho writes it and how its written. The same goes (for me!) with kagome/inuyasha fics, which are kind of hard to find good ones, because they are either so AU that they don't even click as "sesshomaru" or "kagome" or whichever character thet are supposed to be, or, the plot has been beaten to death with the cliche stick. The problem with rin/sesshomaru or inuyasha/kagome is there is no happy medium

I hat to beat a dead horse, but I'm just gonna throw my two cents in. I believe someone already mentioned it before, but the main reason I rarely support SessRin is because most of the time she is characterized as completely not the type to stand up to Sesshoumaru. That's just who she is, as far as we've seen her in canon. But she is still very young, and she has yet to mature, either physically, or into her personality. Eventually, I think she might overcome the innate awe she has for him, and become someone who could be his equal. Unfortunately, the comparison that came to mind was from Twilight. I hate quoting that book, but the idea of Sesshoumaru and Rin as a romantic pairing seems to me to be similar to the idea of a 17-year old falling "in love" with a 2 year old presented in that series. Completely different situations yes, but similar in some ways. That also kind of correlates witht he raising a bride from childhood deal. Enough on that though.

I will admit it, I quite often ship SessRin. I've read some excellent stories that featured that pairing. I even found a fansite dedicated to them that was pretty decent. But the pairing has never been quite as interesting to me as SessKag. There's just not the spark that makes things fiery and fascinating. But some authors write SessRin really well. Such as Fenikkusuken. I'm just saying. Not too much pimpage intended, but that lady can write, and do it well. And the only two IY pairings she writes are InuKag and SessRin. She is one of the only authors that can write those two pairings so I enjoy them as much as any SessKag.

Another confession. I also heartily ship SesshoumauxKagura on occasion. When I first started watching the series, Kagura was my favorite character. She just was. I cried at her death scene in the manga. And as far as canon pairings go, she and Sesshoumaru had always seemed the most likely, and were a pairing that I would have been overjoyed to see emerge.

Despite all the reasons for or against other pairings, SessKag is still the OTP. Nothing beats these two, ever!!! XD

I would say, why not.

I mean personally I see them very much as daughter/father relationship, but I think well written, it could be possible for me to like it. I remember when I was reading a Kagome/Kouga story, it suddenly turned into a Kagome/Sesshomaru story, with no warning. It wasn't well written at all, and put me off immediately. I literally went eww. But, about less than a year later, I gave it another shoot with another story I found on the Dokuga Awards list, and I was hooked.

I agree with the many reasons that she's like a daughter, and what not, but Rin/Sesshomaru is probably more likely than Kagome/Sesshomaru, yet it doesn't stop any of us. I'm not disgusted by the pairing, I just don't really see it. But once in a while, if I happen to come across one which is good, (just like with any other pairing), I will read it, and I'm fine with it.

I mean at that point, since Kagome and Sesshomaru are not canon at all, you could ask why not Inuyasha and Kagome? Why not Sesshomaru and Kagura? It's just a matter of opinion and preferences, but I'm pretty sure there's almost as much fan of Rin/Sesshomaru then Sesshomaru/Kagome. To some people, it might just seem just as weird.

To me a good fic is a good fic, doesn't matter the pairing really.

Well, when I was searching fanfictions about my favorite fluffly character, the first few I found were Sess/Rin. Some of them were very interesting, I must say. But the pair never really strike me as true, for some of the reasons people above already mentioned.

First there's the age difference. I cannot really picture someone falling in love with somebody else you knew as a child - and had a close relationship with, watching this person grow and mature. And to say - as some fics says - that Sesshoumaru fell in love with Rin when she was a little girl and then waited for her to grow in adulthood seems to me just plain... wrong. Same goes for the argument of raising "the perfect bride" - oooh, sounds so wrong and twisted for soooo many reasons!! I just won't go there.

Second, there's again the age difference, but now in character development context. In the anime/manga, Rin is a child. When you put her as an adult on a fic, although you strive for keep the personality and traits, you change the character - may as well have a Sess/OC fic (at least, in my point of view). I can't really see Rin - or Shippo, for the matter - as adults.

Third, there's the aforementioned fact of Rin never stand up to Sesshoumaru, she just idolize him so much, obeying without question... And that's not a favorable thing, to me, when the subject is a relationship.

And at last, but not least, we're talking about fanfiction, that delicious realm where everything is possible... So, if a love story between Sess/Kagome seems more (or less) improbable than a relationship between Sess/Rin, who cares! It's a wonderful land of dreams.

But that's my view. Of course, there are many wonderful stories out there, for the many tastes and many ships. I have a lot of fun, and I'm eternally grateful to the lovely writers who feed my addiction.

I think Rin would have hero worship with Sesshomaru, he filled the space of her family, as her guardian. In the eyes of a little girl, our first hero is our Dad. Since she meets him when she is around 5 -7 years of age...to me he would be her father figure. He protects and provides for her...Easy Daddy material.

Also I believe that if Sesshomaru were to follow his father's footsteps...it would stand to reason that it would initially be for power and glory of his bloodline. Being the Shikon Miko gives you a little of both...power and glory.

It was always my impression that Rin would marry Kohaku since she asked Sesshomaru to allow him to travel with them.

I definitely think of Sesshoumaru and Rin as a Father/ Daughter relationship. He raised her and took care of her like a father . So, in my mind it would be better to have Rin/ Shippou or Rin/ Kohaku pairing .

The first fanfiction of Inuyasha I ever read was a Rin/Sesshoumaru pairing, and it was written well. But I agree with a lot of reasons people have already stated - I just don't see them together.

1. They really do have a Father/Daughter relation.

2. Sesshoumaru would never mate a weak human. I don't see him with a weak Kagome either. She would have to be trained and be stronger - he needs someone who is just like him, powerful.

3. He also needs someone who can stand up to him, tone down his narcissic traits a bit. Rin is (in my opinion) too gentle. Kagome would be one of a kind in that time, being raised in our time. I do not think Sesshoumaru would like a girl that is as obedient as Rin. He'd want someone who can think for themselves, not someone without an opinion.

By the way, I still think Rin/Kohaku is the most likely pairing. Rin/Shippo has aging problems, b/c when Rin is 12, Shippo still looks like 7. Youkai age differently. Also, I think Rin would treat Ship-Dip more like a sibling.

And that is what brings me to the ultimate problem: aging. A human lifespan is nothing to demons who can live for thousand years and still look like they're 20. So that would have to be solved. You can't have your mate dying on you, can you?

I think it's because the pairing seems a little pedophilish(sp?) I always thought of Rin and Sesshomaru as being in a father-daughter relationship considering the huge age differences and the fact that she's a minor and he's not. I personally like the SesshomaruxKagura pairing myself,but I do respect people that like other pairing such as SesshomaruxRin or SesshomaruxKagome like this site is for.

I believe I mentioned that I originally was a Sess/Rin fan in another thread so I honestly don't have a problem with it. I can see where people are coming from with the parent/child thing but I always pictured it more of a Highlander thing. Not to mention we have no idea on how Inupapa and Izayoi's relationship started which I'm pretty sure he was hundreds if not at least a thousand years old where she was at most 18? I mean Sesshomaru is hundreds of years old but his mentality is more 19-20 and since he ages so slowly it wouldn't be hard for Rin to catch up. Also I believe as she gets older she'll lose some of that hero worship like most children do and start to notice his little imperfections. Also she does have a bit of a temper that peaks out every now and then so I think she'll grow more into it. That would be my thought on the matter though I will forever be loyal to Sess/Kag. :3

This is my perspective. Originally I was an Inu/kag fan. I was shocked at the idea of a sess/kag relationship. But for kicks and giggles one day, I tried a fanfic (couldn't tell you which one anymore lol), and fell in love.

With that thought in mind, there was a Inu/kag fiction that had a Sess/Rin relationship that I thought was done quite tastefully.

However, I do see Sess and Rin as more of a father/daughter, which is why I usually do not prefer to indulge in those kind of fics. In my opinion, it depends on how the relationship is established. If it comes of incestual, I am turned off from the story and stop reading. But if is both BELIEVABLE as well as TASTEFUL (ex: not incestual), then I may give it a shot.

Personally, I am a believer in the "don't knock it 'til you try it" idea. If I had not followed that motif, I would not be on this site with all the wonderful Dokugians.

Like I said, it just depends on perspective. Similar to the idea of Kagome being docile and helpless vs. being a strong warrior. Everyone likes different things. Just follow what your heart says is right for you. **shrugs**

That is interesting. Personally I prefer the father/daughter relationship between Sesshoumaru and Rin myself. It makes more sense to me since I see his adopting Rin as akin to a dog adopting kittens, or a cat adopting puppies. Takahashi-sensei was uber-close to the truth anyhow, since animals do adopt chitlings outside their own species. I've seen a baby fawn think it was a labrador XD.

Everyone's different. I'd like the pairing if it was done tastefully. If not it would turn me off fairly quick. o_O I get a bit squickity squick if it's a little over-the-top, or out of character.

~ Pyre

This thread piqued my interest. Thanks ;D

I've read a lot of Sess/Rin and I don't see how they can work as a romantic couple within the realm of the established Inuyasha universe. With what we were given by RT, Rin's most logical pairing would likely be Kohaku. They are equals, in a sense, and around the same age. Sesshomaru is her self-appointed guardian and I honestly don't think he'd give her up to anyone BUT Kohaku. Though perhaps this opinion stems from my inability as a writer to write them convincingly together.

Take them OUT of the established Inuyasha universe however, and you have a completely different story on your hands. I could easily see Rin's childish sense of awe towards Sesshomaru (he can do no wrong) evolving into genuine love over time. The best RL example I can think of is Celine Dion (I'm sure you guys have heard of her). She met her future husband when she was 12 and insists that she was absolutely infatuated with him. She pursued him. They started a relationship and now they've been married for ages and have kids together. Some outsiders said it was sick, but they insist they are absolutely sickeningly in love so who are we to judge?

Alternatively, taking Rin out of the established Inuyasha universe and ageing her several years forward does absolute wonders for their relationship dynamic. In that sense they absolutely can work together. She intrigues him and his past is so damn dark he needs her ray of light. In that sense, I adore them together. I think in the right hands they could have a beautiful, tragic and thoroughly perplexing love story.

CarmMeldoll wrote:
I think Rin would have hero worship with Sesshomaru, he filled the space of her family, as her guardian. In the eyes of a little girl, our first hero is our Dad. Since she meets him when she is around 5 -7 years of age...to me he would be her father figure. He protects and provides for her...Easy Daddy material.

That is exactly my train of thought on the subject. I think the relationship that Rin and Sesshoumaru have is really important (even if it you don't view it as exactly father-daughter like), but that doesn't mean it has to turn into romance when she hits puberty.

Never could get into that pairing (even when I was still into cannon pairings - Inu/Kag, been a long time since I wrote that XP).

Honestly, Rin is sort of a wild card I think. I've seen her paired with everybody (Kouga, Inuyasha, Miroku, Shippou, Kohaku, Souta, ...don't think I've seen her paired w/ Hojo but that's about it).

I really liked Sess treating Rin like his daughter. I think it is better that way or else it makes him look like a pedo. Lol. But that's just my opinion. It's really sweet of him to care for her like a father to a child. Having Rin shows us that Sesshoumaru has feelings.

After I read the fic Trouble_In_Shangrila linked, I think I see another new point on SessRin. Normally I don't read them but that one was exceptional. It was a well written fic and it leaves me really emotional. XD

Although from the ending we saw in the show, most likely Rin will be going with someone else. Sesshoumaru will just remain as a guardian/father figure to her. I liked it better that way.

It's true that Rin and Sess shares a father/daughter relationship... There's so many lemon fics about him with an older Rin which I dislike, because I just don't see it happening, man. I think it would be more interesting if she just stays her age! LOL

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chris rosa-wood wrote:
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I hope you don't mean that in some sort of sarcastic way.

I'm just seeing this, so I thought I'd put my two cents in

I have to admit, before I discovered IY fanfiction, I assumed Rin and Sesshomaru would eventually get together. I never put much thought into Sesshomaru at all actually, so I just figured that's what the manga was hinting.

Then I discovered SK fanfiction, and saw things in a different light.

In a way, sugar0o is right - Sesshomaru most likely wouldn't end up with anyone in the IY canon world, for the reasons she said. However, I do think that out of all the girls there, Kagome is best suited. Why? Because it can be considered possible that her spirit and fire would...attract a personality like Sesshomaru's. Normally I am a huge canon shipper, but I easily fell for the SK fandom because of two main reasons, and one of them was that the two do seem right, in a way.

If you take any other young adult fiction and put characters whose personalities are like Sesshomaru's and Kagome's, I for one would be predicting their romance by the end of it. It's the typical opposites attract/they'd be good for each other.

Both Rin and Kagura would display too much hero worship to keep Sesshomaru's interest- he's used to hero's worship, and tolerates it (coughJakencough), dare I say even enjoys it, depending on your interpretation, but he doesn't care for it.

And that moves me on the my next point - Rin.

I can definitely imagine a situation of Rin growing up and longing for her lord. It's very easy to imagine that. But in my mind, would Sesshomaru ever receive and accept that type of affection? No. She would become just like any other courtesan. I think Sesshomaru cares for Rin, for her innocence, compassion, cheerfulness, etc (though he'd never admit it), but I don't think that's romance.

To me, romance has always held banter, and Rin and Sesshomaru would never banter.

So, to sum it up - I do think Rin and Sesshomaru's relationship is very father/daughter, protector/ward.

Also, someone's comment caught my eye, and I really wanted to add my piece to it

Someone said Inuyasha never even really chose Kagome. I wholeheartedly agree, I did even before I discovered SK, and have always been a little miffed at Inuyasha for that (that's the other reason why I fell so easily for SK). Don't get me wrong - I still love our adorable hanyou, and I still love it when fics have Kag and Inu as best friends. But, even my personal dislike for Kikyo aside (I'm not bashing her- I do respect anyone who likes her, and I don't hate her either), Inuyasha's indecision always annoyed me.

Anyway that's just my two cents I love that I can express stuff like this on dokuga

Rin and Sesshomaru kind of put me in the mind of Gibbs and Abby from NCIS (which im a big fan of >.<) They have that kinda 'unspoken father/daughter relationship' going on. Though I will admit I did read Rin/Sesshomaru fics but those were AU mostly, only because it made more sense to me. But thats just my thoughts on it...I always thought that at most she would be with Shippo or even Kohaku, or even find a lord's son that resided on Sesshomaru's land.

I personally have no issue with Rin/Sess, though I do not ship it. To me, Rin is far too....submissive, in a sense, when it comes to him. She's always singing him praises, and clearly adores him, but personality wise she seems far too tame to be with the DaiYoukai. Hence, why I adore S/K -- Kagome is all about the fire, about passion, and about life. I think they balance each other out really well. Rin may help keep him grounded, but Kagome keeps him passionate. (:

I don't know.... I just don't want him with Rin. Despite being the one to thaw his frigid heart, and her kindness, innocence and acceptance... despite all those things that make her outstanding in his eyes, she's just too plain for him. Just doesn't have the depth of character.

She doesn't strike me as the type willing to train and grow stronger, it's not in her personality. And while having no greed for power is a good thing, having absolutely no ambition or wish to be able to protect herself is a thing that will most likely drag him down.

Don't get me wrong, he will protect her, and do it gladly. He is powerful, extremely so, and as such the ones around him become targets, but he's not omnipotent. If she can't protect herself until he arrives (or will just stand there defenseless and wait for him), then she will worry him too much, and, as I said, drag him down.

I just can't see him with her (Too hooked on SessKag if you will ). Objectively, he would most likely end up with her (if he were to end up with anyone). No matter their father/daughter relationship, it just seems to go in that direction.

But, I think that's why Rumiko Takahashi left it at that. To leave it to our imaginations and preferences. You see, at first I couldn't imagine Sesshomaru being with anyone, period. He will most likely be a loner till the end of his days, and he seems content that way (not having any romantic love in his life). Remember, he's youkai, and I think those don't have a need to be loved(they are different from humans). They might have a wish for love (some), but not all. But most of us (humans... females to be specific ) can't stomach that, so we want that kind of happiness for him. That's why I think Rumiko-sensei left it to our imaginations.

~lily

When I originally fell in love with fanfiction, I was a InuKag, SessRin, MirSang, fan. I never thought about the SessKag relationship too much because they were not the main characters. It wasn't until I was introduced to SessKag, which I was a bit skeptical about trying that I fell in love with the pairing of Sesshoumaru and Kagome. It could have been the author's wonderful job or the fact that with many of the stories I had read, I just didn't feel like Sesshoumaru and Rin truly connected as a pairing in my head. I think at this point, even going back and trying to read, I cannot make Rin grow up personality wise. There are some stories, where she ages so much that she almost seems to be a completely different person. But, in most the stories I've read, she may grow up, but she's still extremely childish personality-wise, so when I try to read and it says he "touches her lovingly" or kisses her, I cringe.
I think if the right person were to write it, it could be done.

If someone looks at it this way: Rin is a child, Sesshomaru an older man/demon.
It would seem to some people he is robbing the cradle, but of course she will grow up but, it would give some viewers a uncomfortable feeling if their relationship became a romantic one. It just seems like it's more of a brother/sister relationship or a dad/daughter relationship.
Now anyone feel free to like what you like, this is my own opinion and I don't want anyone to feel like they have to defend their own opinion.

In all honesty, the fact that Sesshoumaru is centuries older doesn't bother me and the fact that he met Rin as a young child. When you put into perspective, there really is no difference between Kagome and Rin in that aspect. After all, Kagome is just fifteen years old whereas Sesshoumaru is what? Five hundred+ or so? Even Inuyasha has a century on Kagome. So technically, wouldn’t he be robbing the cradle as well? The Sesshoumaru/Rin pairing, I think is just overrated. I can see it, honestly I can, but I am selfish and greedy and I think everyone belongs to Kagome. Don’t ask why – but as a crossover writer mostly, I see Kagome with any male… always.

I do think the father/daughter relationship could very well be just something that we like to see. If we dig deeper, and I mean deep, and not just on the surface, we could definitely turn that relationship into something else. It is very common in folklore all over the world where demons/fae/etc. spirit away children and keep them as their own to devour/love/keep/enslave. If we went in that direction then we could very well say that Sesshoumaru did just that. Saved her because he was curious or obligated to help her considering she helped him. His obligation turned into something else befitting a demon. The fact of the matter is – we could watch anime and read manga all we want but we will never really know what the world of “demons” is because Rumiko never really went into detail so the rest is left up to our imagination. It could be natural for him to want her romantically in the future.

However, I dislike Sesshoumaru with pretty much anyone. I like him to be single and asexual forever or with Kagome. That is just me. It’s not that Rin is a child or that there is a father/daughter relationship [I have never seen anything that indicates the father/daughter thing, really. Everything could also be interpreted at romantically] I just don’t like the Rin/Sesshoumaru pairing. It’s irrational and just a matter of preference.

I kinda view it as a step father/step daughter relationship in which I kinda wince at the thought of either lusting after the other. It just strikes me in a kinda...I don't mean this to be offensive, its just my personal view and I can't describe my feeling on it any other way: creepy.

It would be, for me, as if someone who raised me suddenly came onto me as I matured. It would be confusing, terrifying, and I would feel...trapped. Especially in Rin's case, where he is pretty much THE person she really trusts and relies on.

On the other hand, if Rin developed a crush on him I feel it would mostly be founded on hero worship, and he would not truly form a relationship based on that.

Again, that's only my personal opinion, I'm so much with r0o and the random Kagome pairings >>